The Weighting Room Podcast

AITA for calling my wife fat?

Chris & Lisa

Ever fallen into a TikTok black hole and wondered if it’s worth dedicating an entire podcast segment to? We share our differing social media habits, from spiraling into endless feeds to the age-old debate of buying versus actually reading books. Plus, we laugh over our email backlog and personal updates, including an amusing visit to the podiatrist and tips from Mercury Stardust on keeping your rented space spick and span.

The internet can be a minefield, and we tackle this head-on with a discussion about a recent TikTok drama involving a user named Tiffany and the broader issues of oversharing online. Hear about the impact of internet backlash and the unexpected positivity that online communities can bring, all balanced with a heartwarming story about a child's racing game that will put a smile on your face.

Body image and workplace dynamics come under the spotlight as we explore various “Am I the Asshole?” posts, including one where a man’s choice of words for his wife's body causes office tension. We delve into the complexities of diet culture, societal pressures, and how economic stress affects our eating habits, all while keeping things light with smoothie recipes and personal fitness anecdotes. Wrapping up with a chat about the joys and struggles of new household gadgets and pet ownership, there’s something in this episode for everyone.

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Speaker 1:

and I know you asked me to, but no, no, it's okay, this can stay in, but I did not get a story. Oh, I got one because I was like uh doing other stuff and uh watching tiktoks that is fine.

Speaker 2:

We also last minute were like I don't, like it was like a we. We wanted to do this, but at the same time both of us were like uh and like I know we were both on that vibe, but neither of us wanted to say it. So I was like you want to just do an? Am I the asshole? And she's like yes.

Speaker 1:

It's like I don't really feel like talking about myself. However, I do have four things to talk about right off the bat. Okay, number one I want to tell everyone that's listening If you have sent an email in the last six months, we are not ignoring you technically we are by not replying, but we have read them and we appreciate the emails and we love them. Uh, lisa has her own story, but let's just say mine um, lisa's busy and has a child. Uh, I, uh I don't have the mental capacity for anyone but myself right now. That sounds so selfish, but you all know what I've gone through. It's not.

Speaker 1:

Second, I might only have three things actually. Second was I did see my podiatrist today and my return back to work date is August 15th, hopefully, if everything goes good. So I just want to give people good news, since we're not doing really an update. Today goes good. So I just want to give people good news, since we're not doing really an update today, um. So, lastly, I would like everyone's opinion here and I do want you to email me to tell me, because maybe it's something you don't want to hear and I don't want to piss off the listeners we do have. I have suggested to lisa that I want to do a segment where I update lisa on the current dramaticness of TikTok.

Speaker 2:

Because I don't watch TikTok, like for the like I post on TikTok. I browse on Instagram, for I'm not even joking five minutes while I'm sitting in the massage chair at the gym. That's all the social media time I really have. So Chris is like can you believe this is going on?

Speaker 1:

and I'm like I can believe it because I had no idea this is a thing to be fair, like once I'm back at work, I probably won't have as much time, but the one thing I do do well is I don't just see something and go oh, that's interesting. I dive into it like, yeah, I will go on to. And I'm sure so many other people experience this. I have go on my FYP, I see a video too many times and over an hour has passed and I go back, go back, go back and I'm like, oh my god, that first video I saw on my.

Speaker 2:

FYP spiraled me you ever have it like when you've like looked up a recipe and like you're browsing and browsing, and browsing, and then all of a sudden you end up where, like somebody's cleaning rugs, and then like you go into the comments and they're like what did you originally look up? But I'm like, oh yeah, I have. I have definitely thought down a spiral.

Speaker 1:

I thought I was the only one until I went into the videos, like after being on it for an hour, and someone's like who's here in 2024 and it's a 2021 video? And they're like I was searching for blah, blah, blah and I'm like not me, anyway, there is. I really want to tell you this story and I mean it's. This is also the reason why I want to do this corner is because I want to practice my storytelling where I don't have ums and I don't forget what I'm saying halfway through the sentence corner.

Speaker 2:

We should call it a segment segue. You just don't like corner listen.

Speaker 1:

We haven't listened. No, because I feel like years, I know, but I feel like. It's like copyright in fragments or whatever it is, we can never tell a child to go sit in the corner ever again. Uh, why?

Speaker 2:

what's wrong with the corner? Oh, I see what you're saying leave my bed.

Speaker 1:

The blank stares me um. Okay. Oh also, I got my cats a new cat tree. Okay, I told lisa we can't get off topic and I'm literally all she's done is get off topic.

Speaker 2:

The black thing behind you on your bookshelf not the thing that looks like either a candlestick or a very large pepper grinder but yeah, that, what is that?

Speaker 1:

oh, it's even. Is it yeah? Oh, is it a book nook? It's a book nook oh, that's the magic one. Do you want to see it up closer?

Speaker 2:

yeah, well, unless it's a hassle no, no, it's the magic one.

Speaker 1:

Oh, on the side there that's so cute. I actually did break a lot of things in here um, but that's even like a proper light up there and like, yeah, even the roof you can look into it from the top, it's really that's cute.

Speaker 2:

I have a problem where I buy books, so like I feel like buying books and reading books are like two different hobbies, kind of just like buying stuff for crafts and actually doing crafts are two different hobbies, because I don't buy books until I have read the book this is a great book by mercury.

Speaker 1:

Mercury stardust safe and sound. It's a renter friendly guide to maintenance in your home, like if you have like a plug, drain or whatnot. It's really good. I love mercury.

Speaker 2:

Wow that's so smart you know who she is right. No, what?

Speaker 1:

oh my god, we have such different fyps. That's why we have to have those segments. Yes, we have to have those segments. Yeah, um, okay, have you seen the video with? And? Everything is alleged in this, except for the things I say are facts. Uh, tiffany and jen tiffany posted a video. These are not people you know. Tiffany posted a video about how she's canceling her, let's say four-year-old I can't remember the exact age four-year-old's birthday party, because they invited, let's say, 16 people. I can't remember the exact number, but only seven were going to show up, okay.

Speaker 2:

So she canceled it because half the people weren't going to come.

Speaker 1:

Not because, like the daughter, the child wanted or anything, but because the room that they rented would look empty, with only seven people there and about five adults that were going to show up.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's.

Speaker 1:

I'm not in the whole story.

Speaker 2:

That's just the first video. That is very much like I super care about my appearance and I need people to think that I'm super popular so that my they think my kid is super popular, and blah, blah, blah like that's the vibe I'm getting yeah, so this creator named Jen, so this person, tiffany, has about eight, yeah, posts like an influencer that has millions of followers.

Speaker 1:

She has 8 000. Okay, so her video she thinks I'm posting to my community. She doesn't have a private page, it's public. She posts. It ends up on the fyp, sure, this girl named jen, who has roughly about 150 000 followers, stitches it and she's like um, what? Like exactly what you said, but a little deeper, and was like that's super selfish of you and like your child is so young. They don't care, have cake and presents. They don't remember anything else. They're not going to look around this room and go.

Speaker 2:

It's empty. If it was like I don't want to have it here because now I'm going to be paying money and there's not enough people to fund that or I'm not meeting the minimum requirements of people to host at that place, that's one thing, because you're still having a party now. The plan is just somewhere else but if you're just like flat out like I'm canceling it because I can't use this room, because it's gonna look empty.

Speaker 1:

That's selfish, like and it was specifically that because the videos were saved. And in her own words she said it's just so sad, like I would look around and just be so sad for her. So jen posts that, then out comes the claws tip because then jen's video hits the fyp and so everyone from jen's video are coming over and being like you're a horrible mother, a little bit too much.

Speaker 1:

You know how some people go to a stream like all of a sudden you're getting death threats. It's like, how did we go that far? I think we skipped a few thousand steps. So that's unacceptable and, honestly, any real hate towards her is kind of unacceptable. But it's like like hey, maybe you shouldn't post stuff like that online if you don't want to get called out anyway. Tiffany then goes on to say and now we're getting into.

Speaker 1:

I don't really remember too much, but Tiffany was like like how dare this person post and you've taken it out a lot of context, like, or whatever, and was just really upset about it and was like you're the problem, jen, you're sending your followers against me, and how dare you? And your opinion means nothing like kind of like that right. And so jen's, on the other hand, posting all her videos like what the heck? Like you're the one that said this, you're the one that posted about your daughter's birthday. I didn't say anything other than what you actually said. Yeah, just all, just all these videos, just blah, blah.

Speaker 1:

And then finally it's been a week she comes out with her. I'm using air quotes apology video with a heart Jen up at the top. That's on the whole video and she does everything but say I'm sorry. And she does everything to not use the word but because apparently in the one not apparently, I saw it in one of the videos everything followed up with a but like uh, you know I'm sorry, but this is why I did it like you're not sorry yeah, uh.

Speaker 1:

So even in this apology video she said I absolutely hate it when people use the word, but because it's just such exactly like what we're saying, she didn't use the word, but use the word, you know. So then Jen came out with a video that says, just a reminder to everyone, that just because someone apologizes doesn't mean you have to accept it, and we're all like no one apologizes, you wouldn't accept anything. So today she made a video in a very calm voice that was like tiffany. That was like um, how long has this been? A week, a week, okay, okay. So then now it's the. I guess everyone has to have a villain, and I'm just that villain. Before this she said like I don't know why people are still talking about this blah, blah girl, you're still talking about it.

Speaker 1:

You're the one talking about it. The part that I really wanted to say was that I was in jen's comments. I was not in tiffany's comments because I was like she is deflecting. The. All of her comments from day one were mean girl, she looked like a mean girl, she talked like a mean girl in her videos and every comment was like you're blah, blah, blah, like you're ugly too, and I'm like there was not one that was not mean girl. So I refuse to say anything because I'm like I'm just gonna get it back. And in jen's comments there was someone going.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I said tiffany was just like attacking, yeah you're 30, acting like you're 12.

Speaker 1:

And um, there was this other girl, a creator, in jen's comment section that said, yeah, I said something to her that was very like light, and she came to my videos and fat shamed me and I was like I am so sorry and I am so glad I didn't say anything at the same time because like I can't handle that sometimes and that's just absolutely awful, and like we conversed and then today in her everyone needs a villain thing Someone commented to her saying you know, I just think in general, if people don't want opinions of the internet, they shouldn't post things that they don't want opinions on, which ding, ding, ding like so true, it's a very long comment, so I'm not going to read everything, but it's that. And then Tiffany goes I expect the opinion. I have to read it that way because it's how she talks. I expected the opinions of my community and that's it. It was pushed out for the world to see by someone else, not me but you posted.

Speaker 2:

You posted it on. You're not private you don't get to pick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you don't get to pick where it lands on on the internet and you don't get to pick if someone has an opinion or not and stitches your video. How is this? Your first day on tiktok?

Speaker 2:

this is your first day on TikTok. This is your first day like on the internet, like seriously.

Speaker 1:

So I finally commented on Tiffany's video and within 10 minutes I'm blocked. I didn't even say anything bad in my opinion, I said, but it wasn't pushed out to the rest of the world by her I don't know you or her and I saw your video on my FYP. Stop blaming others. When you posted publicly, she had an opinion. She didn't send anyone. Someone replied to me and I clicked on it and then it went to nothing and I was like, oh, that's weird. So I of course went to my backup account, like not to comment, just to see, and not only did she block me, she removed the video. What is wrong with you? Anyway? That was the internet drama of today, and it is all. The moral of the story is one don't post about your children on tiktok at all. Two, don't post anything you don't want an opinion about.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god as the person that gets really mad at people's opinions speaking about okay two things. First of all, that was fantastic, thank you was my storytelling good?

Speaker 1:

I mean, I was so good, I didn't, I didn't go. What was I talking about?

Speaker 2:

once that was so good. That was fantastic. Um two, do you remember, like weeks ago, when I was talking about Ren and Jacqueline? Ren was the like four-year-old girl and then Jacqueline was her mom and how the internet was coming off of her she.

Speaker 1:

I just pause you yeah, she this situation. They actually said at least I'm not that situation no, there's, no, no, there's no, at least yeah, there's one is bad, one is still bad. Yeah, exactly bad is bad, I'm so sorry interrupted.

Speaker 2:

Like I get where you're coming from, but bad is still bad exactly like it could be worse. Nope, still bad. Anyway, she has not posted since march might be april and like she used to post every single day and now it's just like gone and it's like I feel like there's probably some legal stuff going on you know, like, look at what's happening with that mom that lost her daughter to the bullies.

Speaker 1:

You've seen that like um, she um, because she was being bullied so much, and now the bully's parents are suing her because she didn't. The mom that lost her daughter, she didn't shut up about it online, um, and was like nope, this is what happened. She was posting the kids, this is everything. Uh, I can't remember her name right now, but no one should stay quiet about it, because the judge silenced her now and said you have to shut down all social media. So you know, mama taught, mama taught's been on her side since day one and mama's thoughts, like you can't post about it, we'll all post about it. And almost so many women, big creators I'm only speaking on the women, sorry, men, I don't actually, I've only seen women, uh, but they're posting it being like justice for Aubrey, I think is her name oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah I did.

Speaker 2:

I saw her story.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know when she like found the notes and stuff, like yeah, heartbreaking and a lot of people get mad at why are you posting this online? But when you look in the comments and people were like listening to the way that you're you reacted. You're screaming and stuff, like I can't do this to my mom and like it's it people don't realize how much it helps. I didn't realize this is such a different topic but I didn't realize how much my videos helped people. You know, in the beginning, like I'm just posting about being me and it helps people feel less and in that situation it can help people make the choice to or not.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, the internet's a crazy place and I really think that we could have segments regarding this stuff, like some of it might be heavy, some of it might be light. I honestly, most of the time it's really light stuff. I just really went down that rabbit hole and I've got to get off parent talk Like what the hell am. I doing over there I don't want to listen about your kids, except your kid yeah, my kid's pretty great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love Harper. My kid likes to race. Now she's like ready set and then she'll be like mama spot, like mama spot For me to get my spot, and then she runs before I'm even at my spot.

Speaker 1:

I'm like you are cheating okay, yeah, there, did you see that? What? What's going on? Sorry, I don't know if you you're. You all of a sudden came out of my like computer and I didn't know what's going on?

Speaker 2:

I went all ring on your ass anyway, hi, yeah, we're not gonna think about that. But you know what I have thought about that? Like because I haven't watched. I haven't watched the ring because, like I know the concept, I know the climbing out of the thing, like I watched scary movie three kind of thing, right, but like if you had the ring today there's no VHS, nobody's playing that shit. It would be a viral video, like. So they're easy concept.

Speaker 1:

My memory about videos sometimes goes out the window because I consume too many videos a day, uh, but someone did something like that where it left me going am I gonna die in seven days? Because it was like a really creepy TikTok that just came across my uh feed and I don't. I don't know if I sent it to anyone because I was really yeah, no, if I die, I'll save you guys. Yeah, yeah, so anyways, on that note, we should get into at least one or two. Am I the assholes?

Speaker 2:

just one well, but it's a two-parter, so 1.5, all right. Today it's like, really it's blunt. The title is blunt and you can you can tell me what you think as soon as I read the title technically we have two stories because mine was an.

Speaker 1:

Am I the asshole? Without the question.

Speaker 2:

It was just like listen to this asshole oh yeah, true, we just know they're an asshole, speaking of which mom and I have been listening to. Am I the asshole stories like on the way home from work, like it's we just hardcore judge people now that's, that's our entire ride home one of the podcasts I love listening to so much, which you might like as well, as r slash.

Speaker 1:

He just reads reddit posts and he doesn't just do am I the asshole he does? Entitled parents my favorite ones are pro revenge, petty revenge and entitled parents so good, and it's hours of listening, like I will listen my entire shift yeah, I really like um reddit on wiki is the one that we've been listening to. Nice, yeah all right, give it to me.

Speaker 2:

Lisa, am I the asshole? For I, 34 male, work in a physically demanding field. Myself and my coworkers are all fit people without a lot of body type variety. My wife, 32 female, is fat. The thing is she's always been fat the whole time I've known her. We dated when she was fat, got married when she was fat. She knows she's fat, she's fat and she's beautiful. I'm happy if she loses weight. I'm happy if she stays where she is. She knows she's fat, she's fat and she's beautiful. I'm happy if she loses weight. I'm happy if she stays where she is. I think she's the most beautiful woman in the world, as she is.

Speaker 2:

One of my coworkers, julia, 28 female, started complaining that she's too fat to be loved and fat people don't get to be loved. Julia isn't fat. She's maybe 120 pounds. She works out five times a week and barely eats. I told her that that wasn't true and that my wife was fat. She got really red at the face and started telling me I wasn't allowed to call my wife fat and that I was insulting her and that my wife is beautiful and curvy. My wife doesn't like to be called curvy. She thinks it's a label used to avoid calling people fat because it's a dirty word to most people. I told Julia as much. Julia started threatening to tell my wife I called her fat. She pulled up her Instagram and told me put her on speaker and I asked her if if she was curvy or fat. My wife laughed and said I hate that curvy shit. Fat and beautiful baby. I thanked her, told her I loved her and hung up.

Speaker 2:

As soon as I hit end, julia went mental. She started screaming that I was abusing my wife. When I asked how, she said that I was clearly brainwashing her into accepting the term fat to try and keep her compliant and from getting and from getting away from me that no woman in her right mind would ever be okay with their husband calling them fat. I showed her a picture of my wife and a t-shirt that had BBW on it. She bought it for herself, by the way. She stormed off and hasn't spoken to me since now. I just walked in today to an email from hr requesting a meeting with me. I don't think it's a very big deal. I have my wife's blog for fat positivity the shirt and can easily call her for proof. But now things are frigid at work and julia is constantly giving me dirty looks when we're in the same room and she ignores me otherwise. So I'm just over here scratching my head. Am I the asshole for calling my wife fat?

Speaker 1:

Did he say in that story that he said to her fat's not a bad word. Did that come up at all?

Speaker 2:

He said that. So he said how Julia thinks that she's curvy. Okay, and he said he said that we just prefer to use the word fat, because fat is just fat. Like he, he doesn't say bad word. I think they said that they use it as a dirty word, not dirty as kinky, just to clarify. But yes, but in that context, yeah, it's kind of hard.

Speaker 1:

this one, one like I actually do want to lean more to not the asshole, but I also want to lean more into the asshole because I think it's an everyone sucks. Just because you and your wife are okay with that word does not mean that everyone is, and I think that it's great how we have people, like when we had Lindsay on here who was talking about, you know, body positivity and the word fat. It's like it's just a word. You know, the power of that word is how much power we're giving it and but but again, not everyone thinks that way and some people are still either stuck or they don't like that word. And it's like, if someone's straight up telling you they don't like that word, it's like tell, explain it to them. My wife and I are comfortable with that word. My wife prefers that word. If you don't, I'll stop using it.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Like, just easy, you're at work, so it's kind of like it's different than you're just in a social environment. It's like there's that level of professionalism and not everyone's brain is wrapped around the word fat. I'm like I'm. I'm fine with the word fat, but when someone says it, my ears still like like what?

Speaker 1:

did that person say you know? Or like how are they using that word? And it's such a thin line to walk of saying to someone like yeah, she's fat and she's fucking fat. That's you know what I mean. Or not even adding words like yeah she's fat or yeah she's fat. Same words, two totally different meanings.

Speaker 2:

I think the other thing too is, I'm gonna say, not the asshole, for, like the way I'm seeing it, because you have Julia who, again, we're not seeing her, we don't know her height, we don't know her, blah, blah, blah. Right, but like I'm going to assume she's on the skinnier side of things and it's one of those fat is a feeling type scenarios where she feels ugly and I think I personally think she was kind of trying to fish for compliments in that scenario and he kind of took it as you're not fat, my wife is fat. And then, because she doesn't like the word fat, she's now feeling like he's just going to attack anybody.

Speaker 1:

For sure it's trying to explain it to a fat phobic person because she is. She's scared of becoming fat If she's 120 pounds and walking around and telling people she's fat.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, but you know what? Maybe you should go to HR and tell her that she's an insensitive person by walking around and telling people she's fat.

Speaker 1:

Hey, guess what? You're at work. You're not in a social environment either. Go away. Are you ready for part two? Sure, god, is it after?

Speaker 2:

HR. Please don't tell me you got tired slash update. So I met with HR at four o'clock today. Apparently, multiple co-workers who had overheard the conversation stopped by HR through the day to give their side slash way in. Right, I know, I laughed so hard at that part too.

Speaker 2:

It's like you know, he didn't mean to make the pun, but it's there. Whether it was intentional or not, it's there. I wasn't in trouble. They wanted my side of the story. It checked out with what everyone else had said too. I still don't know which of my crew stopped by, but I owe them my life. I offered to show my wife's blog and our rep, who's a really nice girl, told me that if it didn't affect my work it was irrelevant. The story had been corroborated enough by others. Hr reiterated a lot of what y'all said, which y'all being read it in the comments.

Speaker 2:

Even though julia initiated the conversation, I shouldn't have jumped in. It was less of a scolding and more of a request to keep my nose out of other people's business. I'm sad because I thought julia. So this part here is what makes me go. Hmm, I'm sad because I thought Julia and I were friends. We talked about our mental health struggles and hardships of the field we were in and heavy things like that Won't be having those conversations any further. Julia and I will no longer be paired on teams for patient care. I was told my part in the investigation was done and they thanked me for my time. So I think I'm going to be okay.

Speaker 2:

Before I left, I told HR that if weight loss slash body image wasn't supposed to be a topic of conversation, they should consider enforcing that on a company level. We have had weight loss challenges and I suggest making it a fitness challenge instead. She said that they would take it into consideration. So that's it. I wrapped up my treatments everything. Yeah, wrapped up my treatments. Everything will hopefully shake out. Uh, haven't spoken to julia, hoping to avoid her in the near future. Thank you for all the sanity check.

Speaker 2:

Now, to quote Clue, I'm gonna go home and sleep with my wife. So what made me go was the fact of like how close he was with Julia, like thought that they were friends that talked about mental health, like the work that they're in, like, if you're having those kinds of heavy conversations with somebody, if they then are like I feel fat and they're just kind of looking for compliments from you. Yeah, she, I think she had feelings for him. That's the, that's the vibe I'm getting. She had feelings for him. He shut her down, said I like my fat wife and that just set her off. And one comment that made me go absolutely was the difference between your wife and Julia is that your wife loves herself. Julia can't even pretend to not the asshole.

Speaker 1:

That's true. She told on herself she's, she, she's anti fat. So yeah totally agree. Uh, okay, so I was looking through um, am I the assholes? And I came across one, but it's like the person removed it and it's like all in the comments. They're just like you're backpedaling in the comments so hard, but it was based on am I the asshole for asking my roommate to not sit on my couch anymore? And then it's talking about weight, capacities and stuff and like to be fair. I have that thought myself all the time.

Speaker 1:

I have looked at people's chairs at their house like proper bar stools that look like they could fit me and I go like this to them to be like, nope, that's not sturdy enough. I can immediately tell my own couch has two divots in it because it is not a good weight capacity. I am telling you all this not because I'm going to read you the story, because it has been deleted, but I am going to go try and get a cozy couch like actually named.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

They have a pop-up. They have a store in Toronto, but they just came up with a pop-up store in Vancouver. So anyone that's in the lower mainland it's down on. I think they said Granville Street. Just look up cozy pop-up shop in Vancouver. I'm gonna go in and try all the couches out, because Rams and I were gonna order one, not anytime soon, probably next year, but I don't like ordering online until I've tested out especially a couch.

Speaker 2:

They come in regular size and extra large, meaning like the place to sit is like this deep or like this deep right, I'm gonna get the extra large one oh yeah, we got like uh, any chair that I buy for that kind of stuff, I always get like the big and tall, extra wide, all Well they say that like weight capacities are roughly 250 pounds on a couch, like even if, like, people walk on couches like really Well, 250 pounds, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Like not the whole couch, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, but like, whereas with cozy I think it's like 400 or like more, I don't know. But a lot of plus size creators were suggesting it on tiktok and that's what made me go yes, we.

Speaker 2:

So the chair that I got like the rocking chair I got was like a big and tall, high weight one it like held like 450 pounds or something like that for the rocking chair that we got for harper's room. And I'm so glad we got the wide one because if I would have had like a normal one, like my hips would be so sore in that chair. Chris is drinking a smoothie. She's not ignoring me. What was in it?

Speaker 1:

um, so just strawberries, banana and some frozen blueberries, that's good shit. Oh, almond milk and yogurt, nice, I, you know what? I just found a quick in my the asshole. If you want me to read one, or do you think we're good?

Speaker 2:

let's do it, and then we'll call it a day, alright?

Speaker 1:

so this is not one I have read yet, don't know what it's going to be like. We're just going to read it. We're on the ride together. Am I the asshole? Am I the asshole for referring to myself as fat when around other fatter people? Oh, okay, oh, I work in a casual environment where people spend a lot of time blowing off steam, chatting, talking a few minutes to watch a YouTube video, etc. Swearing a little here and there is perfectly accepted, so long as you're not going off and screaming obscenities at clients and the like. I love it. Because I work in a place in the midwest, I'm surrounded by plenty of overweight people. I guess that's a thing. I guess if you live in the midwest, it's known it honestly.

Speaker 2:

That's one thing that I see all the time, because it's like I'm assuming they're talking just America.

Speaker 2:

I'm guessing yeah because that's, that's such a big thing where it's like I saw somebody on Facebook, like on the Facebook reels they put this is outing myself real hard right now, but I saw someone post a recipe where it was like a frozen bag of peas and carrots mixed with cream of chicken, and then they cook chicken breasts on the stove and then shredded that up and put that in the pan and mixed it all up. And then they put biscuits on top and put it in the oven and baked it. And I'm like, oh damn, that looks good. So I'm going to go, I went to go share it to Brandon and I go to the comments and that's all of the comments. Is wow, america doesn't know how to cook with fresh fruits, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh damn, like I didn't realize I fell in this culture of this. It's frozen peas and carrots. It's still, I mean carrots, there's no other same way like that it's, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's like I someone don't kill me by saying this, but it's like just american way of like cooking, like fast and easy and quick, right, and it's like it's the same way as like cooking um, like pork chops and mushroom soup, you know, like in like a condensed one in the oven.

Speaker 2:

It's very american, I don't know I like so much pressure in, like our side of the world where it's like you have both. Both partners have to have an income. You won't be able to afford to live anywhere on your own. You need two people with an income borderline, a third person like we're all, like it's just I mean the world is.

Speaker 1:

The world on our side is going to shit. Yeah, just so that everyone knows, this episode was recorded one day after Trump got shot in the ear.

Speaker 2:

Not to laugh. I'm not laughing. I'm laughing at the absurdity that this continent is becoming Coping mechanism, not laughing that it was Trump being shot.

Speaker 1:

We're not even going to politically talk about that. I'm putting myself in America. That's why I said continent, because it's just like canada follows america and honestly, yeah, that just you know, it's not even talking about.

Speaker 2:

It's too much we can't what we're just talking about. What sentence made us go down this rabbit hole?

Speaker 1:

um, midwest, oh yeah. Okay, let's go back. Let's, yeah, because I work in a place in the midwest I'm surrounded by plenty of overweight people. It's not uncommon for other people to make self-deprecating jokes about the donut someone brought in, uh willpower, etc. Etc. Just useless office chatter, kind of made to make fun of ourselves. Well, I'm also fat. I'm five feet tall, so remember height, though, and 135 pounds. I'm pretty fat for my size. Measurements last I took were 39, 29 and 40, so I'm definitely not test holiday, but I'm also not a healthy or attractive beautiful size, ah, attractive slash beautiful size like.

Speaker 2:

See, you're fat phobic, like my god okay, I wouldn't say like, if we're, if the measurements you're rhyming off. I'm assuming our chest waist, I'm assuming yes, is what I would assume and I have a at five foot. I have a 50 inch. You're at five feet. Sorry, fuck yeah. Six, five, ten, I'm five ten and my hips are. I haven't checked in a while, but it's like 55 inches Right. So like I wouldn't, I wouldn't categorize this person to be skinny but the way that she's describing herself. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But she has said it, she's fat, but she's not as fat as she could be. Right, you know what I mean. Anyway, I don don't like the wording, but we've all been there, like we can understand. Yeah, not everyone's gonna be at the place that we are, like now. There was a time when I used to say, no, I'm not beautiful, I'm fat you know what I mean it's like they can't be both true, so like I'm gonna give her a bit of grace, but still, it's just so upsetting to see stuff like this.

Speaker 1:

I more just feel awful for her. Like what environment did you grow up in? I can understand. I mean, richard Simmons just died. That's a part of my history, you know, like my mom was making me do it when I was six.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would just like everybody to know right before we hit record. Chris was like I want this to be a quick and easy episode, no sidetracking somebody. Anybody have to tally so far. Listen, listen, you just sidetracked yourself.

Speaker 1:

So shush, Listen, I'm also working on it and I have been. So let's skip the recommendations for keto and IF. I'm guessing, I don't know Intermittent fasting. There you go. I did not, was not going to guess that I'm glad I got to hear.

Speaker 2:

I don't know the TikTok gossip but I'm still up to date with the diet culture bitches.

Speaker 1:

I love it. That's what we'll do. Go back and forth, oh my God. Okay.

Speaker 1:

The other day I made a joke about how I hadn't gotten up from my chair in for two hours. I said, damn, my fat ass needs to get up and move around. I've made this comment before, and so have others in the office. One of the bigger girls huffed a little. I ignored it and went about my little walk around the office to shake it off. The next day the bigger girl came over with a friend and they said they wanted to talk about my comment and how they didn't appreciate my jabs at being fat, etc. Because I'm not fat and I'm obviously looking for attention or approval from the thinner girls in the office. That's not true. Number one there is no way someone could look at me and not see that I'm fat. Do I fit into a size eight pant? Yes, does that mean anything with vanity sizing, et cetera? No, it doesn't mean anything with vanity sizing, etc. No, it doesn't all right. I told them that I would take what they said into consideration, but later that day made another self-deprecating joke about being a fatty.

Speaker 2:

someone's already told okay literally the silence that you and I had.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even have to look at you. I could feel your this really upset them. And the big one Okay, I'm sorry, but come on, like you could have even given them names, the big one pulled me aside again and told me point blank to stop. I told her that no, if I wanted to make a joke at my own expense, I going to, and that it's not about her and I would never make a joke at her expense. And that's the truth.

Speaker 1:

I make fun of myself, you are yeah, just because you don't make the joke to her. You making those jokes about yourself will make them go. What about me?

Speaker 2:

yeah and I get that you can't control what other people think.

Speaker 1:

But you're putting that like. I think the bigger picture here is your. The words leaving your mouth are not positive, they're negative, and whether they're directed at you, the sky whoever. You're putting negative words out into the world like how is anyone supposed to react to that? It's not positive. You could just say oh, I've been sitting here for two hours, I need to get up and walk around. Leave the fat ass comment in your own head, because by putting that out there, it's going to, it's going to cause that reaction of other people around going. Oh well, I guess I should get my fat ass up then too. And I'm sure the toxic people are like great motivation. No, that's not motivation. That's doing something begrudgingly because someone else is doing it and made you feel bad about it. There's nothing about that. And mentally last sentence I make fun of myself because that's how I cope with. What horrors I have done to this body of mine by ballooning up to such an unattractive size. She stormed off. Am I the asshole here? Yes, great, reddit thinks so too.

Speaker 2:

Well, because here's the thing Like if everybody, if you were saying it, and then like everybody was like joking along with you with it. It's like, okay, that's the environment. You can tell those kinds of jokes with like you know what I mean, but like if somebody has come up to you and said, hey, this is how this made me feel. If you don't want to apologize, that's one thing, but the fact that you're going to continue doing it, that's where you're really like I don't give a fuck about how anybody else feels, I'm just gonna make them feel like shit.

Speaker 2:

I think the other thing how old did she? Did they say she was? Did she say how old she was at the start? She didn't. No, okay, because I feel like I don't know, I'm getting vibes of like toxic weight talking. Growing up, you know what I mean like that's. That's just the vibe. I'm getting some like if you're coming from a family who's like super, super skinny and you're not super, super skinny, now you've been grown up being told you're fat your whole life, right? So now you're in an environment where other people around you are bigger than you and you're used to being called fat and telling yourself that you're fat and all of this stuff. How comfortable she is with calling herself fat makes me think that other people have been telling her that she's fat her whole life do you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

But because there's a difference between like somebody like eating a burger, feeling bloated that and going oh, I feel so fat and gross, versus somebody who actually believes that they're fat do you know know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's even something you have to work on. I it happens totally with Rams all the time. Like where because I've wanted to say it even out loud where I'm like like I mean not around Rams, where it's a God. Uh, after eating, like, oh, I'm so fat. And yet the word I want to use is I'm so full. But I sometimes say I'm fat and then I'm just like why did I say that? And it's just because it's so normal. You, I've been saying it for 30 years. I'm 40, so I'm assuming I didn't start saying it when I was one.

Speaker 1:

Um, she but I do want to tell you that in this story, because we might have forgot in the beginning it did say that you, she's surrounded by overweight people. It's not uncommon for other people to make self-deprecating jokes about the donut someone brought in, or about willpower, et cetera, et cetera. So the issue is are you the only one doing it or is everyone doing it? Because if everyone's doing it, it what it sounds like is that you said that when that other person who might also say things like that was having a bad body day and then took it too personally. Because if you're all doing this all the time, then what's the problem now?

Speaker 1:

but I think that if your co-worker hey, the negative self-talk is actually like I'm not finding it like a good environment to be in and it's really hurting me, maybe have like a more of a sensitive talk with her about it, about your feelings, than just saying, like you know, cut it out, stop it. It might, it might go further because right now that person's feeling attacked, like they've done something wrong and they probably have but's better to you know not attack them definitely the extremes that you were taking it in the end.

Speaker 2:

You're not listening to what other people have to say. You're not considering other people's feelings. You're only thinking about yourself, like I would say. That is what's making you the asshole, but I also think that you also have some like mental shit that you have to work through as well.

Speaker 1:

So at my work, I am the only woman in my department. At my depot, I am the not the only plus size, but in my department I think they're like not even a handful. Um, and, and one of the people have lost weight. We talk to each other all the time a little bit, a little bit toxic diet culture, um, a lot toxic diet culture from everyone there. Um, a lot of them are in the older generations.

Speaker 1:

Uh, the thing is, is I started just referring to myself as fat. I was like you know, like, yeah, because I am fat, and a few people have I can see the look on their face about to be like, don't say that, but it's just like. I immediately say, just so that you know, as long as I'm not calling myself a fucking fat ass and I just refer to myself as a fat woman, I'm not being mean to myself, I'm stating a fact. If you were to say like, oh, you know, like, as you like being fat and saying it that way, whereas if you were like say like, oh, well, you know, like, as you like being fat and saying it that way, whereas if you were like, yeah, like, that girl is fat as she is. There's different ways to say it, and I am okay with this words, cause it really throws people off when they first hear it, cause it's always been used as an insult. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So we I think that especially with the people that are um, I don't want to use the word woke, but like woke on that topic. Do you still have to give people that aren't grace? And I can see myself initially not giving these people grace and just wanting to be like what is wrong with you? We have to remember where we started.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, totally 100%. I like this, I like these two stories.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, those went hand in hand very well, yeah do we want to do a listen bitch, or is that more? I don't think that's an mi the asshole day, is it?

Speaker 2:

I usually read them, but uh, we're gonna have to put a pin in it listen, bitch, go out there and get some vitamin D, any way you can? That's a good one, I am. Oh, that went dirty real quick. Oh, speaking about dirty, did you see my video about the dirty Dr Pepper?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I slightly saw it in your Instagram and I couldn't listen to it, so I wasn't. Have you heard of what a dirty Dr Pepper is? You sent me a voice listen to it, so I wasn't. Have you? Have you heard of what a dirty Dr Pepper is? You sent me a voice note about it. Um, however, when you were making, that was your Dr Pepper sugar-free, yes, oh, it was zero because in my brain I was like this would be so good for me as a diabetic If it was all sugar-free.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know what Dr.

Speaker 1:

Pepper really looks like.

Speaker 2:

It's so Dr Pepper, dirty Dr Pepper, just in general, is Dr Pepper, heavy cream and coconut syrup. I got a Dr Pepper zero and I had sugar-free coconut syrup before and then I just okay. So I added a little bit of sugar-free French vanilla and then a cookies and cream shake, because that was the closest to vanilla shake that I had on hand and I didn't want to go buy another one, so tried it. It tasted exactly like a root beer float, and now I do want to try it with just a vanilla shake and with the coconut syrup. So good, like I'll have this every weekend, like it was just like one of those weekend chill vibes.

Speaker 1:

Why Dr Pepper, though Like, why not root beer?

Speaker 2:

Dr Pepper was because it's just dirty dr pepper, like that's just what the name of the drink was.

Speaker 1:

so I was just basing it off of that in america because I feel like it's not I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I like root beer, if there's any americans that are listening.

Speaker 1:

Is root beer big there or is dr pepper more the big thing? Because I feel like it's america that I go to that like we don't have root beer Not that they don't have it, but it's just not as common. Maybe they're just confusing it with their regular beer or maybe I was actually in a completely different country and they were just like. Maybe it might have been when I was in Australia, because they also didn't have pierogies.

Speaker 2:

I do At any grocery store I went to, they didn't have frozen pierogies. Where was this Australia? Oh, okay, I want to try it with like a sugar-free, um orange pop and do like a creamsicle orange creamsicle yeah, that would be nice.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, try it. Tell me how that goes. Yum, yeah, I don't want to go buy a Dr.

Speaker 2:

Pepper yes, do it, it's so good. It was so good. It did have like that sugar-free taste afterwards, but aside from that, like it was great. I don't have any sugar-free vanilla though oh oh shopping if you like root beer and you like root beer floats.

Speaker 2:

Anw has a. It's a root beer slushy that they mix with um, like a, like a cold cream, like the one that they like a sweet cream. That's what it is. It's sweet cream with orange or with a root beer slushy, mixed together so good like so good, did you see that ninja came out?

Speaker 1:

not in can yet, but Ninja came out with a slushie machine? No, yeah, I need it, but I did order the dual uh Ninja air fryer yeah, because you can actually rather than buying it all up front you can do interest-free payments. So I'm gonna just pay $14 a month for it, because I just can't afford it right now we went and just spent $200 on a damn cat tree, so, um, but it's so nice the cats are not even on it, it's they're terrified of it I had to put my clothes on it to try and make them go to it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, anyway, I'm gonna go, because there's a video game that I really want to play and time is ticking so yeah, um, bye, bye, yay week, all that stuff, see you.